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Untold Tales of Hollywood #77

After speaking with director Michael Chapman, I got right on it and churned out some more active Clan of the Cave Bear paintings. My new images were promptly sent to Michael and Tony Masters in Cannes.

The film got financed.

Here are all the paintings I did for this project:

In digging up these paintings, I rediscovered that my wife had posed for all of the Ayla images.

I would have loved to have done more work on Clan of the Cave Bear — but what could I do that Tony Masters couldn’t? I felt I would have been a redundant hire, so I didn’t push it, although I know I could have learned a lot about production design from Tony. Because of the nature of the film and its story, there weren’t a lot of sets that needed designing and building. Mostly, it came down to choosing fantastic locations where we could tell our story.

So, I was on to my next movie.

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Untold Tales of Hollywood #76

Film #17: Clan of the Cave Bear (1984)
Directed by Michael Chapman
Production Designed by Tony Masters

I met the incredible production designer/art director Tony Masters (2001: A Space Odyssey, Papillon, The Deep and Lawrence of Arabia are just a few of his credits) when he was on Dune and I was on Conan the Destroyer. Giles Masters, one of Tony’s sons, worked on both Dune and Conan the Destroyer. For cruel sport, the DeLaurentiis family tried to pit me against Giles. I saw what they were up to right away. I spoke to Giles privately and told him what was going on and we became good friends.

Brit Kevin Phipps was our Conan the Destroyer art director. He had a deep passion for architectural designs and the beauty of division of space. He was also a pretty outrageous guy sometimes, like when we went into the costume department and casually pulled his trousers down a bit to expose the top of his pubic hair, then trimmed a swatch of it with a pair of scissors, leaving a clump right on the cutting table. Kevin ended up marrying Debbie, one of the attractive costumers present for Kevin’s clipping ceremony.

One afternoon, Tony came to my drawing board and looked at what I was doing.

“You have no idea…You’ve got the best job in the business.”

I was more than a little stunned to hear Tony say that; he had reached the pinnacle of art direction. He was the production designer.

I later think I figured out what he was saying after I became a production designer. Yes, the production designer is in charge of the entire look of the film. But with that comes huge responsibilities, the potential to be ground up between conflicting directions from the director and producer, and the possibility that your best designs will be ignored and replaced with something mediocre. As a freelance concept designer, my hours were more regular and I got more of a chance to have some visual fun without too many responsibilities.

After production designer Tony Masters finished his work on Dune, he was hired by Michael Chapman (the cinematographer on Taxi Driver, Raging Bull and The Fugitive) to design the film version of Clan of the Cave Bear. They still needed to raise money for Clan of the Cave Bear, so Tony recommended that I be hired to create some presentation art and paint a series of small pictures representing key scenes in the film to get investors interested.

This was right up my alley, as I had been creating presentation art well before I started making movies. I knew exactly what needed to be done.

Unfortunately, it was in conflict with what Michael and Tony wanted. They wanted the soft, poetic moments of the film portrayed.

“We want something quiet, elegant and classy; something rich and sophisticated.”

I tried to break it to them gently that what was really needed was a series of paintings playing up the most action-filled, scary and violent scenes if they wanted to get financial backing. They stood firm, however. I began with a series of 2″ x 3″ thumbnails:
Mike and Tony chose the most introspective domestic scenes for me to produce as oil paintings. I argued against it but conceded to their desires, I did do one extra piece for them, though, to take to the Cannes Film Festival: the big, scary cave bear attack. They reluctantly took that image with them.

About a day later, I got a frantic call from Michael in France.

“We need more of your action stuff! The only painting the investors reacted favorably to was your scary, action-packed cave bear piece!”

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Untold Tales of Hollywood #75

Film #16: Conan and the Eye of Death (1983)
Screenplay by William Stout

I have found that lots of the folks working in the film business are aspiring writers, no matter what their day job is. I was no exception. I wrote a Conan screenplay entitled Conan and the Eye of Death, a script that combined three of  Robert E. Howard‘s Conan adventures as a buccaneer/pirate, when Conan became celebrated and honored by his crew as Amra the Lion.

I did not have a lot of time to throw this together, so I used the structure of the Burt Lancaster movie The Crimson Pirate as the skeleton on which I fleshed out my tale.

Adapting Robert E. Howard’s Conan stories to the screen is incredibly difficult to do well. I started with breaking down the stories to their bare essence of plot. I quickly discovered there wasn’t much plot to Howard’s Conan stories. The bare stories I broke them down to wouldn’t work in a movie — the audience would have been way ahead of us for the entire film (not a good thing). The plot points were much too predictable or clichéd. Howard gets away with this because his descriptive details are fabulous — so fabulous that you don’t realize there is barely any story there. Often in these stories, Conan gets into a nearly unsolvable dilemma. What does Howard have Conan do in this kind of situation? He just has Conan bash his way out of the joint. Problem solved!

I found what I had to do was to make up a completely new story from scratch, then flesh it out with a healthy supply of Howard’s key story points and visual details. So, that’s what I did.

Upon checking my records, I discovered that Conan and the Eye of Death was the rewrite (I actually created an entirely new story but I still gave credit to Stanley Mann) I passed out at our first Conan the Destroyer production meeting. As you might have read in an earlier posting, nothing came of it except for pissing off the director and a producer.

I later learned that Raffaella DeLaurentiis had mentally put me in the box called “Designer”. Once you’re known for being good at at something in Hollywood, it can be difficult to jump categories.

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Untold Tales of Hollywood #74

One thing I found out about David Lynch that I loved was his strong work ethic. Even though he was directing Dune, one of the biggest sci-fi films in history, he always found time to practice his Fine Art. He posted his latest creations on the walls of the studio’s hallways.

I found them hilarious. The first one I saw was titled “Fly Kit.” It was a xeroxed piece of art. David found a large dead horse fly and very carefully had taken it apart. Then, he laid out the parts on a page with handwritten instructions on how to assemble the fly.

The next one I saw was “Fish Kit.”

While I was working on Conan the Destroyer, David finished his rough cut of Dune. I had been seeing phenomenal bits and pieces of Dune whenever I dropped by the room where Leslie Shatz was editing the sound for Dune. I saw loads of amazing scenes with Sting and Linda Hunt. I couldn’t wait to see the full, edited version. While I was there, David came up with a rough cut that was four-and-a-half hours long. The people who saw it (I, unfortunately, was not one of them) proclaimed it to be the greatest science fiction film in the history of cinema, the Gone With The Wind of sci-fi.

After the screening, Dino DeLaurentiis immediately demanded the film be cut down to two hours. I begged and argued with the DeLaurentiis family not to cut the film so severely.

“It’s an event movie,” I pleaded. “Have an intermission in the middle. The theaters will sell just as much popcorn. Or, release two different versions: a long one and a short one.”

Dino wouldn’t budge.

Sadly, once that final two-hour cut was achieved, the remaining footage was destroyed. Yes, destroyed. Forever. This was before DVDs and DVD extras. All of those great Linda Hunt and Sting scenes I saw didn’t make it to the final cut. The final cut’s opening? All of that text that flowed and flowed, explaining the story in words — all of that had been shot — but eventually cut, violating cinema’s “Show, Don’t Tell” rule. We will never see the masterpiece David Lynch worked so hard to produce. It’s lost forever. Those so-called “Director’s Cut” and “Extended version” copies of Dune available on video only add about ten minutes to the two-hour version. David disowned the final film.

I also unsuccessfully argued that the film have a huge, important symphonic score — not a rock score by the band Toto. Unfortunately, the DeLaurentiis were in a Flash Gordon state of mind (Dino produced a sort of goofy Flash Gordon movie and used the band Queen for the film’s score).

These are both battles I wish I could have won.

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Untold Tales of Hollywood #73

I continued my series of lunches with Dune director David Lynch. It felt like I just couldn’t connect with him. It wasn’t his personality; David’s a very nice guy. It just seemed like we shared almost nothing in common.

One day, as our lunch ended, David lit up.

“The Boys! he exclaimed. “Bill, you haven’t met The Boys!”

David stood up.

“Let’s go meet them!”

I followed David across the lot to his office. He unlocked his door, and with a grand flourish, he swung the door open.

“Bill, meet — The Boys!”

On David’s sofa facing me and the door were six identical Woody Woodpecker dolls.

David introduced us.

“That’s Biff, Larry, Fred, Hank, Sam and Chewie (I don’t recall the actual names he had for each one; these six I made up are similar and will suffice). Boys, meet Bill!”

What in the hell does one say in that situation? I’m a T-shirt-and-jeans kinda guy, not used to such mental shenanigans.

“Hi, Boys!”

I’m still mystified by that encounter.

Estudios Churubusco
was a lot looser than the studios I worked in Stateside. Part of the studio contained a collection of wild animals that were available for the films being made there. I loved visiting that part of the studio, getting to see these creatures up close. None of them seemed to be trained; they all seemed like they were still wild. But one had to be careful. Unlike the United States, in Mexico you’re responsible for the stupid things you do. If you get hurt, bitten or mauled, it’s your own damn fault — you don’t try to sue somebody. I kinda liked that: being responsible for one’s own actions.

I was delighted to see a kinkajou. I explained to British art director Kevin Phipps, whom I had brought to see the animals, that I had heard kinkajous make good pets. After hearing that, he approached the cute little critter — and it bit him.

One day production designer Pierluigi Basile and I heard that the animal section of Churubusco had a big tiger. We walked over to see the tiger, which was chained to a large tree. After a few minutes, I noticed something really scary. There was a helluva lot of zigzagging slack in that tiger’s chain — so much so that there was nothing to really keep the tiger from leaping and attacking us. I pointed this out to Piero.

“Piero…We need to slowly back away from the tiger. DO NOT turn your back to the tiger. That will automatically trigger an attack response.”

Watching the huge tiger watching us, we slowly backed up until we were out of range of the big cat.

I learned later that same tiger had attacked and killed a few careless workers over the past few months. Lawsuits? Naw…If the Churubusco tiger got you, it was your own damn fault.

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Untold Tales of Hollywood #72

Conan the Destroyer and Dune were both produced by Raffaella DeLaurentiis. Dune was being directed by David Lynch.

I secretly drew caricatures of both Raffy and David on napkins during lunch. Then, I cleaned them up a bit and colored them:

David Lynch and I share a lot of the same friends. All of these same friends had been telling me over and over for years, “You gotta meet David; you’re like two peas in the same pod. You’ve got so much in common.”

Since we were working for the same production company, I typically saw David each day in the commissary at lunchtime.

I approached David one day, mentioning our friends in common and how they thought we should get together.

David lit up.

“Let’s have some lunches together!”

We had our first lunch together the following day. I tried to connect with mutual interests.

“Do you like horror movies, David?”

“NO! I hate being scared”

Wha––? The guy who created that terrifying Dennis Hopper character in Blue Velvet hates being scared?!!!

I tried relating to David with all kinds of stuff. None of it connected. I wanted to talk about horror and fantasy; he wanted to talk about the joys of watering his nice lawn. When David began to extol the virtues of his cup of coffee, it eventually clicked that in David’s TV show Twin Peaks, Kyle MacLachlan was playing a dead-on impression of David throughout the series. I used to see Kyle each day at lunch (he was one of the main stars of Dune); I couldn’t have asked him about that, though, because Dune happened years before Twin Peaks. I later took a directing course given by Martha Coolidge (more about Martha later in this series). Kyle was there the day Martha talked about casting, playing some of the different kinds of actors I might run into at a casting session.

I also saw another Dune cast member at lunch: Sean Young. Attractive as she was, she kind of radiated “LOOK AT ME!” crazy, so I avoided her.

I got to explore a lot of the Dune sets. The handiwork and craftsmanship on Dune was astounding. The furniture had fine, intricate wooden inlays — stuff that would never show up on camera. It was better for our skilled Mexican crew to do the inlay work for real, as doing faux inlay work was harder and more time-consuming than doing it for real. Raffaella ended up with an incredible key chair from the film. I wish I had one!

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Untold Tales of Hollywood #71

Film #16: Dune (1983; released 1984)
Directed by David Lynch
Production Designed by Tony Masters

As we were under the same production company (Dino DeLaurentiis), Conan the Destroyer was sharing offices and crew members with David Lynch‘s  Dune. My office was just down the hall from Leslie Shatz‘ sound editing bay.

One afternoon Leslie came racing down the hall.

“Is there anybody here with a California accent?” he shouted.

“I’m from California, but I don’t think I have a California accent,” I replied.

“Come with me!”

We went to Leslie’s office. He gave me some lines to read. It was a bit of dialogue from a black robot who was working for the film’s bad guys.

I spoke the lines and Leslie recorded me.

“Great! Thanks!” he said. “You were perfect.”

“I thought you said you needed a California accent…”

“I did — and you have one.”

“What do you mean?”

“One of your lines was ‘That’s just the way we found him’.”


“You said ‘That’s just the way we found’im.’ You Californians slur your words together. David’s going to love it!”

He was referring to David Lynch, the director of Dune. Some of my tales of David Lynch next time….

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Untold Tales of Hollywood #70

I am going to wrap things up here in regards to Conan the Destroyer.

I wanted to include another of my hanging miniature designs, “The Valley of the Gods”, but I haven’t been able to find it. It’ll turn up. When it does, I’ll post it. It shows Conan and his crew riding through a field of gigantic stone sculptures of gods from another era.

Meanwhile, here are two more set designs. The first is Jehnna‘s bedroom. She has just awakened from a nightmare. This is Pierluigi Basile‘s set sketch, followed by my interpretation of his sketch:

This next set is interesting as it was originally a long, narrow set for Dune. I stripped out the Dune aspects of the set and used the still existing wood construction and turned it into a long Conan the Destroyer set. Sorry about the glare; I shot this one framed and through glass.

Finally, a bit of office humor. I love what the Brits call “taking the piss” (taking down a pompous poser). There are a lot of big egos on a film set. Many of those huge egos are undeserved. These folks are often usually trying to make themselves appear more important that they actually are. I hate that unnecessary crap, so I often do something about it.

In a humorous way, of course.

The sheet below was posted one day without explanation. It indicates that we would be punching in with time cards each day. The idiocy of this is the fact that we were picked up from our hotels by the production each morning and then returned to our apartments in the evening via the company’s transport vehicles — so there was no need for time cards.

After I posted this, I wrote a public congratulatory note to the production company, noting that time cards were a clear indication that we were going to be paid for overtime. I thanked them profusely for the opportunity to make more money.

The time cards and their notices all suddenly disappeared by the next day.

In relation to living in Mexico, I’ve got good stories and bad.

One morning I was picked up by a company car that was taking several of us to work. We arrived at the front of one hotel but the guy we were picking up was not ready. So, we waited, parked on the street next to the curb. Suddenly, from out of nowhere, dozens of armed police officers appeared. Several surrounded our vehicle. One cop stuck the nose of his AK47 against the head of our driver, a fellow we had all come to regard as a friend. My American sense of “What the hell are you doing — you can’t do that!” immediately took over my mindset as I rushed to prevent something bad happening to our driver. Piero and my friends grabbed me and restrained me.

“Bill! Cool it! You’re not in the US!”

The cop shouted at our driver to get out of the car. All had weapons leveled at him. The cops immediately whisked him away. We never found out what he was arrested for, nor did we ever see him again. My attempts to contact him were thwarted by the authorities, another reminder that, Bill — you’re not in the US. This all could have happened because he parked a little too long in front of the hotel.

For the most part, though, I loved living in Mexico. The Mexican people were some of the kindest, warmest, most generous folks I have ever met. That’s why I was shocked one day when out of the blue Piero proclaimed, “I hate the fucking Mexicans!”

“Piero! How can you say that? These are some of the nicest, most gentle and hard working people I have ever met.”

“Exactly. They are very sweet fucking sheep. Would you put up with the shit they face each day from their police and government? No. Neither would we Italians.”

I kinda got his point. Most Americans consider Mexico a Third World nation. It’s actually one of the richest countries in the world. Loads of oil and valuable minerals, vast agriculture — generally, an abundance of most things countries consider valuable. But that wealth is in the hands of just a few Mexican families. It has not been fairly distributed to the populace in general.

I met some fine police officers in Mexico City. In general, though, if you get into trouble, the Mexican police are the last people you want to turn to. Notoriously corrupt, by going to the police your bad problems could become seriously much worse.

Funny corrupt cop story:
I was driving through Mexico City one day and the traffic light turned red. I stopped of course, to wait for the green light to go. The light turned green and I began to proceed. I was immediately pulled over by a traffic cop.

“What’s the problem, officer?” I said in Spanish.

“You just ran a red light.”

“No, I didn’t. The light turned red and I stopped. I waited for the light to turn green. It did, and I proceeded.”

“You ran a red light.”

“No I didn’t.”

“Would you like me to take you to the police station?”

“No, I would not.”

I’m usually pretty smart, so I’m amazed it took me so long to figure out that the cop was fishing for a bribe.

“OK; what’s the fine for running a red light?”

“Four hundred thousand pesos.”

That’s about $20,000.

“That’s insane! I don’t have that kind of money.”

“OK. Two hundred thousand pesos.”

The negotiations had begun. We haggled and haggled, always with the threat of him taking me to where I did not want to go: the police station.

I finally said, “Look. All I’ve got in my pocket is 400 pesos (about $20). That’s it. Not a centavo more. You are welcome to it.”

The policeman finally agreed. I reached into my jeans pocket where I kept my cash — and out popped a 10,000 peso bill.


I covered my eyes and reluctantly handed the cop the 10,000 peso bill. He cautioned me to stay put. Then, he dashed across the street to a store. He came back and handed me my change: 9600 pesos. Then he waved me off.

So, he was a corrupt cop — but an honest corrupt cop. We had ultimately negotiated a payment of 400 pesos. The policeman honored that negotiation.

I found Mexico to be a mix of the beautiful and the profane, the incredibly kind and terrifyingly dangerous. It’s got, IMHO, the finest and most varied cuisine in the world. My favorite restaurant on the planet is in Mexico City: the narrow five-story Fonda Del Refugio. I ate there at least three times per week, trying to eat my way through their entire vast menu (I failed).

If you would like a sample of what it’s like to live in Mexico, I highly recommend the 2004 Denzel Washington movie Man On Fire. It’s the terrifying, unvarnished truth. If you think I’m lying or exaggerating, believe me —- I’ve got true, firsthand stories of my travels in Mexico that are much worse.

And even more that are wonderful.

Just in case you think this is a “Rah Rah America!” piece, it’s not. Living in Mexico, I found the only truly obnoxious people I ran into in Mexico City were Americans. Case in point:

I had breakfast every morning at the Century Hotel. The hotel hosted an incredibly diverse breakfast buffet — one of the best breakfasts I’ve ever encountered in my world travels. Eating there everyday I got to know the staff.

One morning, as I was having breakfast with my wife, I heard a small commotion. A few tables away, two Americans, a man and his wife, were browbeating one of my favorite waitresses. She was in tears. I offered to help. The man angrily accused the waitress of cheating them.

“It says one price, all included, for the buffet! Two bucks! She added a tip to our bill. She’s a damn cheating Mexican!”

“She’s actually a very nice person and the best waitress here. Let me see your bill.”

The guy showed it to me. Indeed, there was a two-peso tip added to their bill.

“So, you’re telling me you made this poor girl cry and fear for her job over ten cents?! I’ll be happy to pay your fucking tip.”

I reached unto my change pocket and threw a dime down on the table.

“Where in the hell are you from?” I asked. I was pissed off.


“I just want to makes sure I avoid disgusting assholes like you when I get back to the States.”

“You live here? With Mexicans?!!”

“Better than living anywhere near the likes of you, my friend.”

My oldest son was a baby at the time. When he fell asleep, we’d put him in a basket and carry him down the street to Fonda Del Refugio. Within the restaurant, we received angry glares from every American in the restaurant because we had brought a baby with us. The Mexican people there, however, lit up with big smiles upon seeing our sleeping infant.

They would gather round the basket and warmly whisper, “Gordito…” (little fat guy, a term of endearment. In Mexico a fat baby is a healthy baby) and then grin at us with approval.

My wife was grocery shopping one day. Our son was in a stroller. She got in line to pay for her purchases, then realized she hadn’t brought enough cash. She picked up the carton of milk in her basket and tried to return it to its shelf. The owner of the store stopped her. He took the milk and put it back in her basket — free of charge. He was very upset and near tears at the thought of our baby not getting the milk he needed.

“Your baby — he needs milk! Please — take it!”

Now that’s a typical Mexican.

My wife took the milk and groceries back to our apartment, then dashed back to the grocery store with payment for the milk, of course.

One thing I need to add in regards to Conan the Destroyer, that should have been part of the first Conan the Destroyer posting:

My work on Conan the Destroyer comes under the Unwritten Rule of Hollywood known as “That was then; this is now.” I was approached by Dino DeLaurentiis to work on Conan the Destroyer at the same time I was suing Dino for the artwork of mine the producers had “lost” from Conan the Barbarian. A good chunk of this art (in horrible condition, as you can see from previous posts) miraculously showed up on my doorstep around the time they had asked me to work on the second Conan film. Absolutely no one I knew in the film business thought it was even the least bit odd that I was working for the same guy on one film while I was currently suing him for what he had done to me on another film. That was then, this is now.

Next: David Lynch and Dune

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Untold Tales of Hollywood #69

Pierluigi Basile and I were deeply involved in creating the set in which Jehnna (Olivia D’Abo) enters a circular crypt. I was intrigued by Olivia for a couple of reasons. She was incredibly attractive, especially the first time she showed up at the commissary for lunch in her quite revealing diaphanous Jehhna costume. In addition, she was the daughter of one of my favorite singer-songwriters, Michael D’Abo. Mike wrote “Handbags and Gladrags”, as well as the Foundations hit “Build Me Up Buttercup.” He replaced Paul Jones, the lead singer of Manfred Mann, after Paul left the band. The very poppy D’Abo iteration of Manfred Mann had loads of UK and European hits. Their big #1 American hit (sung by D’Abo) was their interpretation of Bob Dylan’s “Quinn the Eskimo (The Mighty Quinn)”, which Dylan loved.

Piero changed the look of the Iron Dragon, making it more rounded and dome-like, giving it a kind of salamander look.

In the story, Jehnna enters a sacred chamber by walking through the Iron Dragon’s mouth. Here’s Piero’s sketch of that interior:

As you can see, it was originally planned to have Jehnna enter the sacred chamber totally nude. That idea didn’t fly with a PG-rated movie. Nevertheless, here’s my interpretation:

I love this circular set. The idea for this set is that it is a sacred chamber, honoring the great warriors of the past. Each of the warriors’ mummified heads are kept in individual nooks. Below their head is a symbolic stylized bronze bas-relief sculpture that represents who they were in life. Below that, at the base, is a collection of weapons and other items that were precious and meaningful to the warriors.

Piero had me design a load of bas relief tiles for this set (I don’t recall if they were used on the inside of the dragon set or on the outside). I made a HUGE mistake and made every tile different:

It was really stupid of me to make them all different. They were only on screen for a second. There’s no way a viewer could tell if they were all different or not. In retrospect, I should have designed about a dozen or so, and then rotated them to create the illusion of them all being different. I wasted my time and the production’s time making each tile unique, excusing myself and convincing myself that I was creating Art to stand the test of time. Bullshit, Bill — you’re making a quick Conan movie. Get it done, don’t waste time and move on. It’s called the “Film Business“, sucker — not the “Art of Film.”

Here’s the thing about the film biz: You’re tested a lot to see how clever or smart you are. In all of the many job interviews I’ve had in The Biz (and there have been a lot), I have never been told what job I was up for. That used to blow my mind; now I accept it. On the job, you often aren’t given detailed instructions. They want to see if you’re a self-starter and can get stuff accomplished without having to ask a bunch of questions. That’s one reason why my rotting mammoth set piece was so well received. I didn’t ask anyone’s permission to come up with that design; I just thought it up and did it.

Piero could have told me the solution to the tiles design dilemma. But he wanted to see if I would come up with that solution on my own. I failed that test Big Time.

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Untold Tales of Hollywood #68

This is an interior Conan the Destroyer set I designed where Conan (Arnold Schwarzenegger) battles with Bombatta (Wilt Chamberlain). Production designer Pierluigi Basile did a rough sketch, loosely indicating what he wanted. Following that sketch is my interpretation.

This is how it looked in the movie:

All of that beautiful marble? It’s all painted plywood. The Mexican crew members were so skillful at faux marble that you had get mere inches away from it to see that it wasn’t real marble.

This was another set design, Queen Taramis‘ bed chamber, a sexy scene with Arnold and Sarah Douglas. Here’s Pierluigi Basile’s sketch, followed by my interpretation of his drawing.